On Suicide: The Living and The DeadA comment from a reader states:
it’s confusing sometimes…people tell us that we need to change and get over things..that we are ruining their lives-so we figure they are better off w/o us and in fear of ruining our families lives…we decide it just might be the answer after all. We hurt so much we are ready for it to be over…we don’t want to hurt anyone in doing so, but we are already hurting them now anyway. so what so we do? pray for death?
Austin says:
I thought I’d do an entry on this because it’s come up a few times in private 3D conversations as well as in a few journal entries of mine.
The biggest reason that suicide hurts others more than it relieves the dead is that the living are left with too many un-answered questions. As a survivor, I know that I take responsibility for faults that are not my own. I take on the burdens, the mistakes and the crimes of others and wonder why on earth I didn’t do this or that right so the situation would come out differently. I have found that this is a human response and not one that is primarily an abuse survivor’s issue. To illustrate this, let’s think about the surviving person of a car crash. Say everyone in the car died save one person. It is common for that sole survivor to wonder why he was left alive and why the others didn’t live. Even though the case wasn’t of suicide it still centers on a sudden and unexpected death. The questions that the survivor has are often haunting and life altering. He may sometimes feel he would have been better off had he perished in the car accident. Many times the grief that eats at our bones is worse than death itself. If you think about a person that is the survivor of a suicide victim the questions they have are much more intense and much more disturbing. (“Suicide victim” is the appropriate phrase. We are often victims of our own mind and it is from this mind that we seek refuge in death) There were most likely years of struggling with the victim and years of trying this or that to help them. When the person does take their life it may feel to others that they simply didn’t do enough to keep their loved one from suffering. Do you realize that you can never tell them exactly why you chose that day to die? You can never tell them that they did or did not do enough, that they did or did not understand you. The questions you leave behind and the grief that follows when there are no answers is to me, like passing on the grief I would seek to end. Yes, people would move on but I’d steel from them valuable days and nights. My mother stole the same things from me, sleep, happiness, closeness and peace of mind. Can I justify taking my life and passing on grief to another person who has not ever hurt me to the extent that my mother has? No. I can’t. I use to think I could. When a friend of mine killed herself a few years back it became clear to me that I personally can not justifiably take my own life. I’ve tried over 15 times. I’ve got about 10 serious attempts and at least 3 near fatal ones. I consider myself to be an expert on what doesn’t work!
There are many days when I think death would be better than living in my own mind. Of all the emotions I feel, anger, fear, depression and grief, joy and love, humiliation comes out on top by a land slide. This life I lead is humiliating. It’s degrading and many times it’s intolerable. Remembering what was done to me, remembering in my sleep and in waking hours, not recognizing myself when I look in the mirror, not recognizing my friends, my roommate, my dog, being afraid I’m going to run into my mother, just being afraid… it’s all so much to deal with that sometimes I think death would be better. But if I put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger I take all my hardships and pass them onto people that don’t deserve it the same as I didn’t deserve to be hurt.
This will sound rather hypocritical or contradictory but I don’t feel that suicide is a selfish act. I think suicide is often the result of terminal mental illness the same as death is the result of terminal cancer. There are times when the body and the mind simply give out. In my opinion the word selfish has no place in the same conversation as suicide. Many times when a person takes their life they worry that their family will be better off without them. The struggles we go through in our head, in our hearts… it can’t be summed up on one word such as selfish.
I can’t tell another person that they should or should not take their life. What I can do is tell you my perspective as the surviving friend of a suicide victim. In death the victim leaves behind more grief than they feel they caused in life. I’d like to as my friend Berlin what went wrong the day she took her life. I’d like to know why I didn’t get to say good bye. I’d like to know if she thought there would be people that would be angry with her or if she wrote and asked people not to be angry with her. I’d like to know if she realizes that when she killed herself she gave many people the okay to follow in her footsteps and if she realizes that while she lie asleep in death I still cry and grieve for her?
You might be asking yourself, well, what about all she was going through? I know. I know so well because as I said, I’ve tried numerous times to take my own life. So I know what she was going through. I know what it feels like to need to die, not just to want to die but to need to die. And now I know what it feels like to stand at the other end and wonder what I could have said or done to make a difference.
So what do we do? You asked if we should pray for death. We should keep going. We should take each and every tiny victory and hold it tightly. We should understand each failing and recognize it as a part of being a frail human. We should reach out to other people and not be caught in our own world. We should understand that without connection to others healing will be retarded and dwarfed in ways it should never be. We keep going… and we keep journaling.
Austin


…and so is the story as to why i live. you are right, you have to go on, you have to consider others and everyone has a reason for being here. don’t worry about me…i’m too chicken shit to kill myself…and just when i think it’s over…i rise again.
Yes Phoenix, we rise again! But we dont just have to think of others. We have to think about what is left to live for and what we can gain by living. If we merely life FOR others then we can already count ourselves as dead. If you have no reason to be here that you know of my suggestion is to keep searching for it. Keep looking because its out there. You are here for a purpose other than to suffer. I believe that strongly. Others benefit by us being alive but if our spirit isn’t fed with something for US then it fades and everything around us becomes black. You’ve gotta find something that makes you happy and stick to it.
cheers to you and I hope your day is a managable one. I never say have a good day because most days aren’t that good. i always hope for managable. LOL
later,
Austin
When the heart and mind are tired, we often reach out for love and understanding in strange ways. I think on many levels, numerous unsuccessful suicide attempts, signify the desire to live and not die.
I’ve often told myself that if I ever attempted suicide I’d be successful, and one attempt is all it would take. A gun, pills, gas, and other methods that leave the possibility for survival, would not be an option.
I’d probably use pills to numb me emotionally, but ultimately, I would visit a hotel or building with extremely high floors, and jump. There would be no chance of survival if the right height was chosen.
After 15 suicide attempts you’re still here. Though it may not be understood on a conscious level, subconsciously, you never wanted or intended to die. Your attempts were a sign that you were reaching out, desired understanding, and wanted to live. Each time it may have been worse, but it was not meant to truly end your life. It’s like cutting, a temporary act of desperation and relief. This means you want to live, and are open to love. After these attempts, you’re cared for by nurses, listened to with more concern by counselors, and the list is endless.
Most people might see 15 unsuccessful attempts as a sign that someone wants to die. I see it, as someone who wants to live. I hope that you find the love, peace, and comfort you so truly deserve.
“After these attempts, you’re cared for by nurses, listened to with more concern by counselors, and the list is endless.”
I am sure that there are times when a person will attempt suicide for these reasons but I have few manipulative issues. When I have tried to kill myself not every time landed me in a hospital and many times no one actually knew I made an attempt. there was one time when i combined so many meds that I slept for i think it was 2 or 3 days. I didnt even tell my t herapist for over a month after that attempt. i didnt need attention or love or nutruing. i needed relief. like with cutting, i need relief. and yeah, it got easier and easier with each try but the goal was always the same.
I not only wanted to die but I needed to. I need to not live in my head anymore.
Let me tell you what I appreciated about your comment, you didnt go into “God loves you..blah, blah, blah.” I believe in God very much. I have religious beliefs that I dont live up to but I do believe in him strongly. But the last thing I want to hear is someone getting all religious on me. You didnt do that and I appreciate it. you seemed to be honest and genuine and you seem to care for others. I noticed your encouragement in the comment as well. so even when I dont agree with this or that, I am able to still see the whole comment in all its meanings.
thanks for commenting!
Austin of Sundrip Journals
no kidding…i like to hear people are praying for me, but i have had it up to ‘here’ with carasmatic freak shows. i’m sorry if it offends anyone..but i have had my share of the ‘bad preacher’ and i will not go back. i am more free to love god now and not worship some preacher man. i had so much shit shuved down my throat and abuse to go along w/ it. as for what makes me happy and what i live for: my kids, my husband, my belief that ultimately suicide might lead you to an uglier place…you never know, my photography and writing. there is nothing like photography to soothe the soul. i can snap up a four pack in no time. i hate having to wait to get money to develope tho. the hub promises a dark room one day. my animals make me smile and the leaves and the autumn. i wish i were at lost maples or enchanted rock right now! i have been down a pretty long rd. and i know what people mean when they say they are “sick of”, or “glad to hear”. yes, everyday is hard…each of them is an accomplishment. wishing you well….