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	<title>Comments on: Pure, unadulterated bullsh*t!</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand. I was just concerned that if the pantry reported it to the township, and they pushed the issue and required the landlord obtain a permit, and pay higher taxes, he might be inclined to no longer want to rent the room, which would cause problems for you. Maybe I should have just said that to avoid confusion. I hope things work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand. I was just concerned that if the pantry reported it to the township, and they pushed the issue and required the landlord obtain a permit, and pay higher taxes, he might be inclined to no longer want to rent the room, which would cause problems for you. Maybe I should have just said that to avoid confusion. I hope things work out.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin of Sundrip Journals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin of Sundrip Journals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my concern is and has always been ...eating...that is why I&#039;m so upset. all I want to do is eat. it seems like i scrounge for every bite i take. this same pantry treats people like shit. we keep going back because we need food. we trade dignity for food. nobody should have to do that. that was the main point of the entry. I understand all of the legal stuff but that has nothing to do with me at all. and for them to say that i was dishonest is just wrong. why didnt they come out and verify my address where i lived for 5 years before here? i understand what you are saying, that they think he is wrong. even so, that has nothing to do with me. i just want to eat. no amount of legality or regulations will put food on my plate. and this type of &quot;order&quot; should not rule a local food pantry that has nothign at all to do with the state or federal govt. it&#039;s a local church pantry. again, all i want to do is eat. it seems i have my fill of bureaurocarcy!

i hope you understand that i know your comment was to see both sides. i do see your comment as it was written. my emotional response does not negate your point of veiw. thanks for comminting.

Austin of Sundrip Journals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my concern is and has always been &#8230;eating&#8230;that is why I&#8217;m so upset. all I want to do is eat. it seems like i scrounge for every bite i take. this same pantry treats people like shit. we keep going back because we need food. we trade dignity for food. nobody should have to do that. that was the main point of the entry. I understand all of the legal stuff but that has nothing to do with me at all. and for them to say that i was dishonest is just wrong. why didnt they come out and verify my address where i lived for 5 years before here? i understand what you are saying, that they think he is wrong. even so, that has nothing to do with me. i just want to eat. no amount of legality or regulations will put food on my plate. and this type of &#8220;order&#8221; should not rule a local food pantry that has nothign at all to do with the state or federal govt. it&#8217;s a local church pantry. again, all i want to do is eat. it seems i have my fill of bureaurocarcy!</p>
<p>i hope you understand that i know your comment was to see both sides. i do see your comment as it was written. my emotional response does not negate your point of veiw. thanks for comminting.</p>
<p>Austin of Sundrip Journals</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s terrible. I feel so bad for you. My guess is that in the past, they may have had people who live with romantic partners for free, yet report they pay rent to get pantry services.

Since there really is no way for them to know for sure if you&#039;re a renter, or involved in some type of romantic or family arrangement, it&#039;s probably easier for them to make a rule and stick with it to save their own butts.

I know it sucks, but maybe it is best to let it go. I think you should be direct and ask your landlord a few questions.

Legally, he can get in trouble for &quot;renting&quot; a room in his home without a permit. The office that supplies the permit, is probably the same office that funds the pantry. Usually a township if you&#039;re in a suburb. So if the pantry doesn&#039;t have proof of this permit, although he is going to the pantry, that is sure sign the lanlord may not have reported things, which means he&#039;s not paying taxes which is illegal.

It may have taken them a few weeks to verify things, which is probably why they didn&#039;t say anything the first time. Pantries usually cross reference with townships, churches, and other neighborhood support services to avoid providing services to people who don&#039;t need it.

Since you&#039;ve been going to the pantry awhile, maybe they are trying to avoid making things more difficult for you. They are legally required to report a rental situation like that to the township. It may be a blessing that they&#039;re just refusing to provide pantry services, and not reporting things.

Talk to the landlord. If he never registered for a permit, and isn&#039;t paying taxes, the disagreement was probably more about him than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s terrible. I feel so bad for you. My guess is that in the past, they may have had people who live with romantic partners for free, yet report they pay rent to get pantry services.</p>
<p>Since there really is no way for them to know for sure if you&#8217;re a renter, or involved in some type of romantic or family arrangement, it&#8217;s probably easier for them to make a rule and stick with it to save their own butts.</p>
<p>I know it sucks, but maybe it is best to let it go. I think you should be direct and ask your landlord a few questions.</p>
<p>Legally, he can get in trouble for &#8220;renting&#8221; a room in his home without a permit. The office that supplies the permit, is probably the same office that funds the pantry. Usually a township if you&#8217;re in a suburb. So if the pantry doesn&#8217;t have proof of this permit, although he is going to the pantry, that is sure sign the lanlord may not have reported things, which means he&#8217;s not paying taxes which is illegal.</p>
<p>It may have taken them a few weeks to verify things, which is probably why they didn&#8217;t say anything the first time. Pantries usually cross reference with townships, churches, and other neighborhood support services to avoid providing services to people who don&#8217;t need it.</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;ve been going to the pantry awhile, maybe they are trying to avoid making things more difficult for you. They are legally required to report a rental situation like that to the township. It may be a blessing that they&#8217;re just refusing to provide pantry services, and not reporting things.</p>
<p>Talk to the landlord. If he never registered for a permit, and isn&#8217;t paying taxes, the disagreement was probably more about him than you.</p>
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